Wilson Tuckey the barometer

When Malcolm Turnbull is in trouble, you get Wilson Tuckey on the evening news. He free-forms on climate change policy, asylum seekers and anything else that comes to mind. (Tuckey’s seat has been vastly redistributed and he’s in danger of losing it to the Nats; hence recent fondness for publicity.)

Thanks to this week’s Newspoll, we should get a Wilson-free fortnight. But the next one will probably bring him back.

  • This isn’t the first 52 to 48 poll for the Rudd government. In September last year, Nielsen came in with those numbers (51 to 49 if preferences are allocated like Newspoll does) but in that case there was a corresponding change in preferred PM. Most recent Nielsen, with polls back to 2007 election, reminds us that  there should be another next week or week after.

Update: Read Dave Walsh in comments on redistributed O’Connor. I asked Antony Green for notional primary votes in redistributed O’Connor (based on 2007 election), and he obliged, adding that the state election numbers at the new O’Connor booths might be more relevant. Indeed, as the table below shows, the federal numbers have Tuckey romping home, but state ones if repeated would point to a likely National win, assuming Labor (and Greens?) direct preferences in that direction.

O’Connor primary support

  2007 election results New margins based on 2007 federal results New margins based on 2008 state results  
LIB  45.9 49.3 29.3  
NAT  17.7 9.2 34.5  
ALP  20.4 25.4 20.9  
GRN  6.8 7.2 6.8  
CDP  2.9 2.7    
FFP  1.3 1.2    
ONP  1.6 1.6    
Oth  3.4 3.3 8.5  
         

 These numbers, of course, should not be taken literally. One imagines Tuckey has a very high personal vote, but he has lost most of that because he has lost most of his hold seat. The member for Kalgoorlie, Barry Haase, would have a decent one and that would be built into those notional numbers based on 2007 federal results. Tuckey is trying to endear himself to all those new voters.

11 Responses to “Wilson Tuckey the barometer”

  1. Lentern says:

    Sorry can I just seek clarification on something? Is it a case of Tuckey pulls more stunts(for lack of a better word) when polling is bad or does he do more or less the same thing but gets heavier coverage when the coalition polls poorly, perhaps tendered as evidence of the coalitions dire state?

  2. Peter says:

    The latter, I am suggesting.
    [Elaboration: In addition, if the Liberal Party is perceived on any particular day to be a rabble, Wilson is more likely to find folks sticking cameras and microphones in his face because a few choice words would fit nicely into tonight's story. But he would also be more likely to hold his tongue when his leader is "travelling well", so it works the other way as well.

    This applies not just to Tuckey, nor just to current others like Cory Bernardi etc but party politics broadly (recalls Kim Beazley II's problems with backbenchers), the news process and - to get a bit pretentious - life in general.]

  3. David Walsh says:

    Actually the new boundaries make it LESS likely that Tuckey would lose his seat to the Nats.

    Where previously the ALP and the Nats battled for 2nd place on primaries, the redistribution – which removed much of the farm belt around Geraldton and added a big chunk of the outback including Kalgoorlie – should ensure that Labor comfortably outpolls the National Party at the next election.

  4. Doug says:

    Note Morgan Poll is out at 61/39 2pp virtually unchanged from last week.

  5. David Walsh says:

    Those state figures are interesting, but I’m not sure how enlightening they are.

    For a proper comparison we’d need to see the state results on the old boundaries of O’Connor. Despite the ominous looking numbers, the federal redistribution has actually reduced O’Connor’s overlap with Nat held state seats (in particular Moore) whilst further overlapping with non-Nat state seats (Eyre, Kalgoorlie).

    Put it another way, I think the old alignment of O’Connor with its huge chunk of the wheatbelt was about the most favourable federal seat one could draw for the Nationals. The new geography that divides the wheatbelt can’t be helpful.

  6. Peter Brent says:

    I reckon important considerations are:
    - Tuckey is contesting a mostly new area so his previous presumably substantial personal vote won’t fully apply.
    - Some of O’Connor’s current notional Liberal vote (based on 2007 federal election) would come from current Kalgoorlie MP Barry Haase’s personal vote, which Tuckey won’t get.
    - However, as a well-known maverick, Tuckey might make up for this.
    - Regarding Antony’s 2008 state election numbers applied to current O’Connor. Were they largely votes for sitting Nat members (with personal votes)? If so this is good for Tuckey. But DW’s comments above suggest not.
    - There’s likely to be a swing to Labor in WA at the next federal election.
    - Nationals don’t tend to do well in WA at federal elections.
    - And lots of other variables.

  7. Dave says:

    If the ALP vote increases in sophomore swing, then it is less likely that the ALP comes third to the Nationals, therefore less chance of a Lib/Nat showdown.

  8. Antony Green says:

    Sophomore swing is a theory that newly elected members get an increase in their vote when they first face re-election. There is no sitting Labor MP in O’Connor to receive sophomore surge.

  9. William Bowe says:

    A New Zealand correspondent recently wrote asking me much the same question. I did my own calculations which were rosier still for the Nationals than Antony’s, though obviously you’d trust him over me. My response was highly detailed, so I’ve pasted it below (here’s hoping the tags work here …).

    Your email inspired me to calculate results for O’Connor and Durack based on the state election results, which was no small undertaking. The results are an eye-opener. The Nationals would have easily won O’Connor with 38.0 per cent to the Liberals’ 25.3 per cent and Labor’s 20.7 per cent. In Durack they would have been competitive with 28.5 per cent to Labor’s 29.2 per cent and the Liberals’ 29.7 per cent, but would ultimately have failed to get ahead of Labor on preferences, so the seat would have gone to the Liberals. However, it’s not quite as simple as that in practice. Incumbency is an enormous advantage in Nationals-versus-Liberal contests, as many conservative voters are equally comfortable voting for either party, and the Nationals had sitting members in about half the area of O’Connor and maybe 20 per cent of Durack. By contrast, both federal seats will be defended by Liberals: O’Connor by Wilson Tuckey, who rightly or wrongly retains enormous personal popularity throughout regional WA (though that might be beginning to change as he seeks to extend his career into his late 70s).

    There were other factors boosting the Nationals vote which won’t apply at a federal election. The Nationals’ hugely successful strategy was to stay independent of the Liberals and offer their support to whichever party came good on their “Royalties for Regions” promise, under which 25 per cent of WA’s mining royalties are to be spent on boondoggles in the country. This meant they were particularly successful in drawing votes off Labor in regional areas, which won’t apply at a federal election where the Nationals are clearly in coalition with the Liberals. There was also the “one-vote one-value” issue. The state election was the first held after Labor succeeded in abolishing rural vote weighting, which prompted a very successful Nationals campaign pointing out the diminished influence of regional areas in parliament, and the need for representatives expressly dedicated to protecting its interests. These factors collectively led to the Nationals polling over 20 per cent in regional cities and mining areas where they have traditionally had very little presence.

    Against that must be considered the fact that the state election success had given the party’s profile an enormous boost throughout the state, and they now have a massively wealthy benefactor in the form of mining billionaire Clive Palmer, an influential figure in the Queensland LNP who evidently views connections with the resurgent WA Nats as good for his particular line of business. At the party’s recent state conference a big splash was made about their chances of winning a Senate seat with Palmer’s backing – I don’t believe anything was said about O’Connor and Durack. I also expect Malcolm Turnbull to play very badly in WA generally, and in the country in particular – he’s conspicuously Sydney in a way that John Howard wasn’t. The Nats would thus emerge as a natural place for country conservatives to park their vote. However, the conventional wisdom is that the Nats got screwed by the redistribution, which resulted in the boundary between O’Connor and Durack running straight through their Wheatbelt heartland. It had previously been concentrated in O’Connor, such that they came within spitting distance of knocking Tuckey off in 2007 (they narrowly failed to overtake Labor for second place, and would have fallen maybe 4 per cent short if they had succeeded). They were hopeful they might be able to nab the seat from him when he retired, if not before.

  10. Dave says:

    Mr Green, I was thinking Government incumbency, not seat holder. What I meant was that the ALP is likely to get a swing in WA, just to balance up a little with the rest of the country.

  11. Antony Green says:

    Federal governments usually get their highest vote on election to office, not at their first re-election. Even if WA were to record an increase in Labor vote, I suspect O’Connot would be one of the seats where we wouldn’t see that swing.

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